lawmakers have to do is ring him up. >> there is a phone number there for our executive offices in washington, d.c. we are prepared to help you and your staff and support this legislation in any way that we can. >> and guess what? there's gold at the end of the rainbow. >> but i'm not so crazy as not to know that you've already figured out that if i can talk you into doing this bill, my clients are going to make some money on the bond premiums. >> and corporate interest conflated with the public interest. >> but if we can help you save crime victims in your legislative district and generate positive revenue for your state, and help solve your prison overcrowding problem, you don't mind me making a dollar. >> alec members are seldom as upfront as the american bail coalition. in fact, ordinarily alec's hand is very hard to see at all. but if you know where to look, you'll often find alec hiding in plain sight. >> alec has, in addition to its regular vacation resort trips, it also has special, what it calls boot camps, on particular substantive issues. >> in march, 2011, alec held one of those '